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Leadership, Science, and Armenia with Dr. Shushan Sargsian

January 18, 2023 • Patty Martin

Themes: The Armenian Experience, Leadership, Emotional Literacy, Authenticity, Silence, Courage

[00:42] Patty explains current events and the needed advocacy for the blockade happening in Artsakh

[03:01] Patty and Shushan talk friendship

[04:47] Shushan tells her story

[06:27] Shushan explains growing up Armenian

[07:06] Shushan talks Armenian Genocide

[08:12] Shushan describes the paradox of being a scientist and Armenian

[10:20] Shushan explains the current Armenian conflict with Azerbaijan

[12:02] Shushan describes her experience of the Armenian war while working in a lab in the US

[13:16] Shushan & Patty explore the disparate response between the Armenian war and Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

[15:54] Shushan & Patty talk about the role of science in political activism

[16:33] Patty & Shushan discuss the leadership crisis of our current moment

[18:41] Shushan discusses her emotional regulation while in science and during the war

[19:28] Patty talks about the damage caused from silence

[20:49] Shushan describes a vulnerable moment of talking about being Armenian at work

[22:02] Shushan talks about the changing emotional landscape in science

[25:31] Patty explains why we should talk war in lab

[26:05] Shushan reflections on her evolution towards emotionality

[27:28] Patty discusses the good girl archetype in academia

[31:14} Shushan answers some rapid-fire questions

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